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Luke_Wilbur
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.CO Internet S.A.S is launching the new .CO domain name marketed to rival the .COM domain name.

 

http://www.cointernet.co

 

is withholding :

 

Christmas.co

Gift.co

 

And other single word premium domain names?

 

Is SEDO planning to bid them out at a later date? I use SEDO and got no communication about this.

 

What happens to those individuals who are prepaying the $275.00 for a chance to get these premium domain names?

 

I see nothing on the web site that explains this.

 

Do you think this is fair for small businesses trying to get a chance at a good domain name?

 

I personally think this gives an unfair competitive advantage to those organizations that you decide to invite.

 

 

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Guest Jim from MA

WHO is cointernet.co?

 

Can anybody "invent" a TLD?

 

Isn't .co reserved for the country of Colombia or the state of Colorado?

 

What if I want the TLD .Jim? Can I have it? If not, why not?

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This is the response I just received.

 

Dear Mr. Wilbur,

 

While the .CO Registry does have a list of reserved names which will be auctioned in premium auctions over the coming months and years -- neither Christmas.co nor Gift.co are on that list. Both of these domain names are registered to third parties, and were likely registered during one of the early phases of the .CO Launch Plan, including Grandfathering or Sunrise A or B. The .CO Registry did not "invite" any of the parties to get Christmas.co or Gift.co, as you suggest --we are simply the registry of the domain names they secured on their own accord. To learn more about our domain name allocation rules, please visit our website at: http://www.cointerne...cies-procedures.

 

Regarding fairness to small businesses and entrepreneurs, we are taking many steps to support these communities — including having given free domain names to many early adopters through the .CO Founders Program (see www.Opportunity.co for examples). There are millions of top names available on the .CO extension and the opportunities for small businesses and entrepreneurs to find high value names are substantial.

 

Kind regards, and best wishes,

Lori Anne

 

I do not understand this

 

neither Christmas.co nor Gift.co are on that list. Both of these domain names are registered to third parties, and were likely registered during one of the early phases of the .CO Launch Plan, including Grandfathering or Sunrise A or B.
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Guest Jim from MA

WHO is cointernet.co?

 

Can anybody "invent" a TLD?

 

Isn't .co reserved for the country of Colombia or the state of Colorado?

 

What if I want the TLD .Jim? Can I have it? If not, why not?

 

Anybody have any answers?

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This is my latest response from Lori Anne Wardi.

Luke,

Please download the domain allocation rules i referenced in my prior email. It explains our step by step gradual allocation of domain names. Yes, the .co domain has existed inside of Colombia for nearly 20 years and many thousands of people owned domains with .com.co as the ending (because the country hadn’t yet opened up .CO by itself). All of those people had the right to convert their .com.co registrations to .co registrations before the rest of the world. Aftter that, trademark owners had priority to protect their trademarks. It is all described in our launch rules. And the process is audited and validated by the global consulting firm Deloitte for compliance with the rules. I hope that helps to explain!

 

Have a great day!

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When I type the url for:

 

http://www.gift.com.co/

 

I get the following:

 

Your domain has expired and is now suspended. If you would like to restore it please contact your registrar. You have 30 days from the day of expiration to renew your domain and remove the suspension status. If you have any questions please contact us at +57-1-616-9961.

 

and when I type

 

http://www.christmas.com.co

 

I get the following:

 

Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.christmas.com.co

 

At this point it appears that no organization owns that name. So this rules out Grandfathering.

 

Phase 1:

Grandfathering

 

Period during which only certain existing Registrants of (a) Third Level Name(s) are given the opportunity to register Domain Names identical to their existing Third Level Domain Name directly under the .CO TLD.

 

It is not possible to register as a trademark a term that is generic for the goods/services. So this rules out Sunrise.

 

Phase 2:

Sunrise

 

Sunrise “Local ( A )”:

Period during which holders of eligible trademarks that have obtained registered status by the Colombian trademark office can apply for their corresponding Domain Name(s) directly under the .CO TLD, insofar these Domain Names have not been registered at an earlier stage.

 

Sunrise “Global ( B )

Period during which holders of trademarks of national effect that have obtained a registered status in their respective country or region anywhere in the world can apply for their corresponding Domain Name(s) directly under the .CO TLD, insofar these Domain Names have not been registered at an earlier stage.

 

http://www.cointerne...tration_1.4.pdf

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Guest Bilderberg

They are trying to give all the old money a chance to take over the domain searches. That is rotten to the core. I wonder if ".CO Internet S.A.S" is a Bilderberg organization. Alvaro Uribe, President of the Republic of Colombia is a Bilderberg member.

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This is the latest information I have received.

 

Hi Luke,

 

Sorry, the domain gift.com.co and the domain gift.co are two different domain names. Likewise christmas.com.co and christmas.co are two different domain names. The people who owned gift.com.co and christmas.com.co were eligible to secure the .co domain in addition to the .com.co domain. They were also allowed to keep their .com.co or to terminate it, should they choose to do so. The bottom line is, both of the .co domains for christmas and gift have been secured in the normal course of the .CO launch. It would be perfectly fine for the owners of one or both of these names to decide to drop the .com.co domain after acquiring the .co domain. I hope that helps you understand.

 

Thanks Luke!

 

Best regards,

Lori Anne

 

It seems like Lori will not let me do a whois on those domains? From what I see no one owns them.

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Guest Black Sun

Here are the registrants for that domain Luke. It is interesting that there was an update to Christmas.com.co on the same day you posted. Coincidence? Probably.

 

Domain Name CHRISTMAS.COM.CO

Domain ID D595476-CO

Sponsoring Registrar CENTRAL COMERCIALIZADORA DE INTERNET S.A.S

Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID 88888

Registrar URL (registration services) http://mi.com.co/

Domain Status clientTransferProhibited

Registrant ID CE_11370681

Registrant Name Internet Portfolio SA

Registrant Organization n/a

Registrant Address1 Mystic Point Punta Pacifica

Registrant City Ciudad de Panama

Registrant State/Province Panamá

Registrant Postal Code 00000

Registrant Country Panama

Registrant Country Code PA

Registrant Phone Number +507.3908894

Registrant Email coportfolio@gmail.com

Administrative Contact ID CE_11370681

Administrative Contact Name Internet Portfolio SA

Administrative Contact Organization n/a

Administrative Contact Address1 Mystic Point Punta Pacifica

Administrative Contact City Ciudad de Panama

Administrative Contact State/Province Panamá

Administrative Contact Postal Code 00000

Administrative Contact Country Panama

Administrative Contact Country Code PA

Administrative Contact Phone Number +507.3908894

Administrative Contact Email coportfolio@gmail.com

Billing Contact ID CE_11370681

Billing Contact Name Internet Portfolio SA

Billing Contact Organization n/a

Billing Contact Address1 Mystic Point Punta Pacifica

Billing Contact City Ciudad de Panama

Billing Contact State/Province Panamá

Billing Contact Postal Code 00000

Billing Contact Country Panama

Billing Contact Country Code PA

Billing Contact Phone Number +507.3908894

Billing Contact Email coportfolio@gmail.com

Technical Contact ID CE_11370681

Technical Contact Name Internet Portfolio SA

Technical Contact Organization n/a

Technical Contact Address1 Mystic Point Punta Pacifica

Technical Contact City Ciudad de Panama

Technical Contact State/Province Panamá

Technical Contact Postal Code 00000

Technical Contact Country Panama

Technical Contact Country Code PA

Technical Contact Phone Number +507.3908894

Technical Contact Email coportfolio@gmail.com

Name Server NS1.GOOGLE.COM

Name Server NS2.GOOGLE.COM

Created by Registrar NEULEVELCSR

Last Updated by Registrar CENTRAL COMERCIALIZADORA DE INTERNET S.A.S

Last Transferred Date Wed Jul 07 16:50:13 GMT 2010

Domain Registration Date Sun May 25 00:00:00 GMT 2008

Domain Expiration Date Sun Jun 19 23:59:59 GMT 2011

Domain Last Updated Date Wed Jul 07 18:50:42 GMT 2010

 

Domain Name GIFT.COM.CO

Domain ID D618876-CO

Sponsoring Registrar .CO INTERNET S.A.S.

Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID 111111

Registrar URL (registration services) www.cointernet.com.co

Domain Status ok

Registrant ID 48981-REG

Registrant Name GIFTS POR LA WEB LTDA

Registrant Organization GIFTS POR LA WEB LTDA

Registrant Address1 TRV. 23 NO. 100- 43 APTO 301

Registrant City BOGOTA

Registrant Country Colombia

Registrant Country Code CO

Registrant Phone Number +57.006105153

Registrant Email iskia@yahoo.com

Administrative Contact ID 48981-ADMIN

Administrative Contact Name ruben dario yunda espejo

Administrative Contact Address1 TRV. 23 NO. 100- 43 APTO 301

Administrative Contact City bogota

Administrative Contact Country Colombia

Administrative Contact Country Code CO

Administrative Contact Phone Number +57.006105153

Administrative Contact Email iskia@yahoo.com

Billing Contact ID 48981-ADMIN

Billing Contact Name ruben dario yunda espejo

Billing Contact Address1 TRV. 23 NO. 100- 43 APTO 301

Billing Contact City bogota

Billing Contact Country Colombia

Billing Contact Country Code CO

Billing Contact Phone Number +57.006105153

Billing Contact Email iskia@yahoo.com

Technical Contact ID 48981-ADMIN

Technical Contact Name ruben dario yunda espejo

Technical Contact Address1 TRV. 23 NO. 100- 43 APTO 301

Technical Contact City bogota

Technical Contact Country Colombia

Technical Contact Country Code CO

Technical Contact Phone Number +57.006105153

Technical Contact Email iskia@yahoo.com

Name Server NS1.PARKCO1.NEUSTAR.BIZ

Name Server NS2.PARKCO1.NEUSTAR.BIZ

Created by Registrar NEULEVELCSR

Last Updated by Registrar NEULEVELCSR

Domain Registration Date Wed Apr 09 00:00:00 GMT 2008

Domain Expiration Date Fri Apr 09 23:59:59 GMT 2010

Domain Last Updated Date Wed Jun 02 20:01:53 GMT 2010

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