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The problem is that Republicans have not come up with anything different from the policies of George W. Bush. They still believe that the market is king and the government is its face.

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You can play all the games you want cause it aint helping ya.

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The problem is that Republicans have not come up with anything different from the policies of George W. Bush. They still believe that the market is king and the government is its face.

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Guest America is Funny

You can play all the games you want cause it aint helping ya.

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Human, do you think Republicans DON'T think the "market is king" Laissez-faire, self-policing?

 

Funny: I thought that was their main tenant.

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Big Business owns both parties. Vote Libertarian.

 

34 GOP Senators (around 75% of the GOP Senators) and 91 GOP Congressmen (50% of the GOP Congressmen) voted for Bush’s TARP Socialist bailout of Wall Street, a transfer of 700 billion dollars of taxpayers’ money to their campaign-financing buddies on Wall Street along with the Dems. The vote was on October 1st right before the October re-election recess. It was found shortly thereafter that $53,000,000 dollars was transferred to the campaign funds of Democrat and GOP Congressmen and Senators who had voted for TARP. The money was traced to Wall Street banking and securities firms. Source: “Meltdown” by Thomas E. Woods Jr, p. 5, a book endorsed by Ron Paul.

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Maurice Raymond "Hank" Greenberg former chairman and CEO of American International Group (AIG) past Chairman, Deputy Chairman and Director of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. In 2005, the Christian Science Monitor reported that Greenberg is well-known in Washington where he known for raising large amounts of money. Greenberg was one of the President Bush's 'Rangers' which means he personally raked in more than $200,000 for the reelection campaign.

 

On March 15, 2005, AIG's board forced Greenberg to resign from his post as Chairman and CEO under the shadow of criticism from Eliot Spitzer, attorney general of the state of New York. On May 26, 2005, as part of a series of actions against leaders of large corporations, Spitzer filed a complaint against Greenberg, AIG, and Howard I. Smith (ex-CFO of AIG) alleging fraudulent business practice, securities fraud, common law fraud, and other violations of insurance and securities laws.

 

Following the U.S. government bailout of AIG in late 2008-2009, Mr. Greenberg sold his nearly 12.9 million shares of AIG stock to a privately-owned company called Starr International Company, Inc. (SICO). SICO is a Panamanian corporation domiciled in Bermuda with primary offices in Dublin, Ireland. The company was the majority shareholder of AIG stock prior to the U.S. government bailout of 2009.

 

It is time for the old Republican guard to step down. There is a a civil war that is going to destroy the party if it does not start conceding its mistakes.

 

http://investing.bus...vcapId=27009172

 

http://www.nycourts....20Greenberg.pdf

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According to a new WSJ poll, "Just 24% express positive feelings about the Republican Party." That number is the lowest on record in the 21-year history of the survey. "Democrats are only slightly more popular, but also near an all-time low."

 

According to a new Pew Research poll, only one-third of Americans know that the Troubled Asset Relief Program was passed under President George W. Bush. Almost half (47 percent) responded that TARP was passed under President Obama, and 19 percent admitted they did not know who was president when it passed.

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Here is good read.

 

Fiscal Truth-Telling from Old-Guard Republicans

 

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Blogs/2010/08/09/Capital-Exchange-Hager-Fiscal-Truth-Telling.aspx

 

That squeamishness about government investing seems ironic at a time when the government owns 60 percent of GM, and the notion that Congress and President Bush would allow surpluses to persist long enough to pay off the debt seems, well, idiotic now. But at the time it was actually faintly plausible. The forecasted budget surpluses really were huge. Pressed on NBC’s Meet the Press Aug. 1 to repeat what he’d said on Bloomberg TV about the tax cuts he’d once advocated, Greenspan said he was “very much in favor of tax cuts, but not with borrowed money.”

 

But, he was reminded, Republican leaders say tax cuts pay for themselves.

 

“They do not,” snapped Greenspan.

 

Well.

 

The same day Greenspan went on Meet the Press, former Reagan administration budget director David Stockman had a tough op-ed piece in The New York Times in which he said much the same but more candidly -- ripping Republicans for embracing "the insidious doctrine that deficits don’t matter if they result from tax cuts."

 

Like Greenspan, Stockman thinks extending the “unaffordable Bush tax cuts” is craziness when the public debt is as big as it is. As he calculates it, the debt will soon hit $18 trillion, a "Greece-scale” equivalent to 120 percent of gross domestic product. Debt of that magnitude “fairly screams out for austerity and sacrifice” and makes it “unseemly” for Senate GOP leader Mitch McConnell “to insist that the nation’s wealthiest taxpayers be spared even a three-percentage-point rate increase.”

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CNN/Opinion Research released a new poll showing that 69 percent of Americans support higher tax rates for people earning more than $250,000 per year. According to the poll, just 31 percent of Americans agree with the Republican Party that all of the Bush tax cuts should continue. Meanwhile, 51 percent favor President Obama's plan to extend the tax cuts for the middle class, and an additional 18 percent support allowing all of the cuts to expire as scheduled.

 

http://i2.cdn.turner...8/19/rel11g.pdf

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Remarks by the President in a Backyard Discussion in Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

Cavalier Residence

Albuquerque, New Mexico

 

We had a debate in Washington because states were very hard-strapped for cash and were starting to lay off teachers. And we said, let’s close a corporate tax loophole that is incentivizing companies to ship jobs overseas, let’s close that loophole and use that money to help states keep teachers and firefighters and cops on the job, because there are a bunch of states -- Hawaii, actually, had gone to a four-day-a-week school week because they just couldn’t afford teachers. Think about that. Four days a week you go to school. They are missing a fifth of the school year because of budget crunches.

 

And so we said, well, that’s not acceptable. Let’s just close the tax loophole that even the companies that were using the loopholes couldn’t really defend.

 

So we closed it. The leader of the Republicans in the House, he fought us tooth and nail to do that. And then when we pointed out this is saving a whole bunch of teacher jobs and police officer jobs and firefighter jobs, he says, well, those are just government jobs.

 

Those are government jobs? Well, these are people who are teaching our kids. These are folks who are rushing into burning buildings to save our families, putting their lives on the line. Government jobs?

 

But that is the ideology that the other side has been bringing to every problem out here for years now. And that’s the choice that we’ve got in this election.

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This time I have been forcing the issue on the General Public on whether they really want a left wing

Ideology to rule them by using your group "Law", and giving your group all the power that they can, and can't handle.

 

Legislatively and Administratively because I honestly don't believe any longer that the general public gets it.

 

Will the Wallet understand it?

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Blue Dogs, Red Dogs, Hot Dogs, etc...

 

We need to Forget the Party Brand name and elect people that will serve the working class.

 

I spoke with about a half dozen American factory workers the other day.

 

They are great people that we should be talking to.

 

They had a wonderful working relationship with their owner.

 

It was one big family.

 

It is their story we should be listening to.

 

I learned how they just got a big piece of machinery from an equipment auction of a factory that recently moved production to China. Over 6,000 American workers lost their jobs.

 

They hit hard times, but things are really starting to move along. They are getting a burst of orders.

 

There is opportunity.

 

They also told me how companies are making prototypes and a small amount of goods here, but most of the detail work is going to China.

 

I believe we need our leadership coming from American Factory Owners that have stood the test of time.

 

We need leadership that understands the machinery that defends us, needs to be produced in the home front.

 

We need leadership that understands how to strategically use our resources that will give us an overall advantage over any foreign adversary.

 

Our ancestors created the technology of the American Assembly line. Now the concepts are given away to our foreign competitors. Most of that technology is not coming back. No factory equals no reason to train individuals on that particular technology.

 

Imagine China making our tanks, missiles, and planes.

 

No offense to the great people of China, but I am not party to that type of thinking.

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One more thing...

 

One factory worker told me that the British Government has private enterprise grants that give money to companies on condition that they prove it will hire more employees and actually do so.

 

GREAT IDEA

 

Why not meet the Democrats half way on giving tax breaks to those under 500 k?

 

So only money after 500 k gets taxed.

 

In addition, all investments that are American Manufacturers should be given a tax credit.

 

And for the love of American Business Owners do not itemize goods under $600.00.

 

We need to entice business investment to the United States.

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High level Republicans are starting to believe their party is going too extreme.


The irresponsible actions of my party, the Republican Party over this were astounding. I’d never seen anything like this in my lifetime," said Hagel. "I was very disappointed, I was very disgusted in how this played out in Washington, this debt ceiling debate. It was an astounding lack of responsible leadership by many in the Republican Party, and I say that as a Republican. - Former Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-Neb.)
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