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A few new visitors have posed a question to Me “Who are You”? I must mention the answer to this question here because every new reader is obviously attacked by this question. My name is Venu Gopala Krishna Murthy with surname ‘Jannabhatla’. This name belongs only to this outer most gross body, which is composed of the inert five elements.

 

The inner body is called as the subtle body, and is made of qualities and feelings which are like waves in a pond of water. The water is the pure awareness, which is called as the causal body or soul. If all My qualities and feelings subside as in the case of a realized scholar, the soul becomes like a pond with stand still water. There cannot be waves without water and thus the subtle body cannot exist without the causal body.

 

The subtle body always includes its causal body, which is made of life energy. This subtle body enters the gross body in the womb of mother and leaves it at the time of death. The subtle body has no name or surname. Therefore, I am only introducing My gross body through My name and surname.

 

Then, who am I? Am I the subtle body? If I become a realized soul and get full liberation My subtle body disappears and at last I remain as the causal body. Up to this there is no complication, because this is the inner X-ray photograph of any human being. In the ordinary photograph only the outer-most gross body appears. The X-rays of the spiritual knowledge reveal the subtle and causal bodies.

 

A special situation appeared in My case as one can see from My life history. The experiences of devotees and the unimaginable excellent divine knowledge that is flowing from Me clearly demands the presence of some extra item in Me other than these three bodies. Some call it as sixth sense or intuition, which is a categorical imperative. Some call the same as God, power of God or grace of God. The people who do not want to accept this extra item, which is beyond this world, are called as atheists. From their angle I am a trickish human being cheating humanity through My speeches. But even to them I have posed a question at the beginning of the introduction. Let them answer that question and if they can convince Me, I shall give up this Mission.

 

God is unimaginable and cannot be directly experienced. He donates Himself to His devotees through a medium and the best medium is the human body for human beings. People other than atheists are believers in God and are called as theists. Among these theists, the first type of people think that the unimaginable God entered and pervaded all over this human body. In this case the electric current that entered a medium of a wire pervades the wire. Such a wire is called as current itself. Fortunately or unfortunately almost all My devotees belong to this first type and call Me as Lord Datta. Swami means Lord and Datta means the Lord donated to human beings through a human body. Thus I am named as ‘Datta Swami’ by My devotees.

 

This is the state when Jesus said that He and His Father were one and the same. The second type of people treat Me as a devotee of Lord Datta, who like a father visited the house of My gross body and stays in the central room called the heart. Jesus as the Son sitting on the right side of His Father stated this state. Hanuman, a devotee tore his heart and showed the Lord in it. I (subtle body along with causal body) am the owner of this house and it is My fortune that My Father visited My house. The invisible Father does all the miraculous work and gives fame to the visible Me.

 

Such fortune is possible only in the case of the topmost devotee. The third category devotees never admit the entrance of God into any human being. These people worship formless God like space or cosmic energy. Some people of this category worship the energetic body of God as the Father in Heaven and some of this category worship statues and photos. The worship of all these people belonging to the third category is only indirect representative worship. This third category accepts that some power of the God enters a human being, who brings His message to the earth.

 

These people call the human incarnation as Messenger only. However these people believe in the messengers who were dead, but they do not believe the living Messenger present in their time. Such people like the priests of the Jewish temple had Lord Jesus crucified and did not accept Him even as a Messenger. For the same reason the Kapalika followers killed Sankara and conservative Hindus killed Swami Dayananda.

 

 

Therefore, I have to answer the question “Who are You?” for different people in different ways:

 

1. Yes, I am the very Lord Datta

2. Lord Datta is in My heart as I am His strongest devotee

3. I have been sent by Lord Datta as His messenger

However I prefer to stand by the third answer because that will not contradict the first two categories and is sharply accepted by the third category. The people standing on 100, 50 and 25 can commonly accept the least number 25. Lord Krishna gave the first answer because He was preaching the Bhagavad Gita only to Arjuna who believed in Him as the Lord. But I am giving My discourses to all the three categories of the people. A Messenger is just a microphone who is near to the speaker (person who speaks).

 

The nearness is only for the convenience of the speaker and should not be misunderstood as dearness. The speaker is invisible and the visible microphone appears as if it is speaking. Similarly, you think that I am generating this divine knowledge since the speaker in Me is invisible. Similarly, whatever miracle is experienced by the devotee through Me is from that invisible speaker alone. The movement of the visible fan is due to the power of invisible electric current in it. In this angle of Messenger, the final essence is that this divine knowledge is coming from the Lord Himself.

 

You can study it with utmost care and you can neglect Me since I am only a post man. The microphone covers only a small circle of people around it. But the amplifiers cover large circles and propagate in a big way. Similarly, I have propagated this spiritual knowledge through My speeches in small circles only. I am donating only My words and intelligence in the Mission of the Lord. But, My devotees are far superior to Me since have sacrificed not only the work but also the fruit of their work (money) in propagating this divine knowledge to the entire world.

 

They call Me as the Greatest. But they are greater than this Greatest. The Lord may be far or near the microphone or might have entered the microphone and spread all over the microphone to become one with it. In any case the microphone and the speaker are different. Electric current and the wire are different. The microphone may be very close to the speaker due to such a requirement. The amplifiers may be far from the speaker due to such a requirement. The nearest microphone does not mean that it is the dearest. Actually the amplifiers situated far from the speaker are doing greater service and become dearest to the speaker.

 

 

Thus My devotees are dearer to the Lord than Myself. The closeness of Myself is just for the convenience of the Speaker (the Lord).

I often say to My devotees that I am greater than them by the role that I have taken in this world-drama. But as an actor of that role, I have the least value. In a film an actor may act as the Lord and another actor may act as the devotee. The actor acting as devotee may be paid ten times more than the actor acting as Lord. The value of the actor in the role of the devotee may be far more.

 

 

Therefore, I say to My devotees “O fortunate devotees! When all of us go the Lord as His servants, you will be in the front and I will be in the back”. Bible says the same that the first will become last and the last will become first. This situation arises because we stand there as bare actors in front of the Lord since our roles are left on the earth”. The microphone, which is near to the speaker, must imbibe at least a little of the nature of the speaker. The speaker is invisible and is giving all the credit to the microphone. Unfortunately I am visible and cannot hide Myself to give the total credit to My devotees, which they really deserve. At least let Me give equal credit. The microphone and amplifiers are only instruments and there is no difference between instruments.

 

 

All of us are only the servants of the Lord. As a cook I have prepared the food. My devotees are catering this with utmost efficiency. They think that I have prepared this food with special taste. They don’t know that I have prepared this food with the help of the cookbook, which is hidden, in My pocket. The whole credit goes to that book as far as the special taste of the food is considered. However the book has nothing to do with catering. Thus all the credit of My work goes to the Lord only. But the credit of My devotees in the catering goes to them only.

 

 

I have many devotees who come to Me for their worldly problems, treating Me as an astrologer or a person having some power of God. I treat such devotees as the gravel stones and their number is useless. But I have a few devotees about whom I should express My appreciation here. They are the original gems. They are so few that they can be counted on one’s fingers. If the Lord really exists in Me, I shall certainly give a higher place to My devotees. Lord Krishna created ‘Goloka’, which is the 15th upper most world above His ‘Satyaloka’ so that the dust of the feet of His sacred devotees (Gopikas) shall fall on the head of the Lord.

 

 

He indicated this in His lifetime itself by asking for the dust of the feet of Gopikas to be applied on His forehead. It is the expression of the purest love of the highest Lord towards His top-star devotees who proved their devotion through service.

 

I am addressing the invisible speaker as Swami, who is experienced by the devotees through this human body. Swami represents the invisible current flowing in the visible wire. The miracles and the special knowledge are the electric shock (which is the effect) of that current. But people say, “This wire is giving a shock”. Therefore, the word Swami indicates this aggregate of three bodies (Wire), which is visible only in the external sense but in the internal sense the same word indicates the invisible fourth item, the speaker (current).

When we say that the Lord spreads all over the human-body like current in the wire or dissolved sugar in water, even then, the Lord and the human body exist separately. Here the word human body indicates all the three bodies together.

 

Therefore, the first part (the human body) should be also very careful about the other part (Lord). When Arjuna asked Lord Krishna to repeat the Gita after the war, Krishna replied that He could not repeat it because at that time the Yogeswara present in Him had told the Gita. The human incarnation is a two-in-one system. Even in the sugar solution the dissolved sugar molecules and water molecules co-exist. In the second angle the Lord and human body are closely associated like a transistor and a tape-recorder in one electronic instrument. In the third angle, the Lord and the human body are far from each other like the sun and a lens. Only the energy of sun enters the lens in this angle In the Gita,. when Krishna told that He was everything, it was the Yogeswara (the Lord) who was speaking. When Krishna told that He could not repeat the Gita, it was the human body, which spoke like that.

 

The Lord left the human body of Lord Krishna at the end. Arjuna cremated the dead gross body of the Lord. The subtle and causal bodies were not entangled in the cycle of Karma and therefore, both of them merged with the cosmic energy. Rama never spoke as Lord and worshipped the Lord. Buddha kept silent about the Lord and just lived like a saint. Even Sankara told in one of His prayers “O Lord, we both are qualitatively similar but differ quantitatively. The ocean is not in the wave but the wave is in the ocean”. Sankara prayed to the Lord through several songs. Jesus cried at the end O Lord, why did you leave Me?” Shirdi Sai always spoke that the Lord is His master (Allah Malik). Sri Satya Sai mentions the word Sai only whenever He gives statements like “No power can oppose Him (Sai). Sri Ganapathi Satchidananda uses the word Swamiji when He states that He is not touched by these worldly aspects. All this proves that the human incarnation should also be careful about the egoism of the human body.

 

Therefore, whatever analysis is given by Datta Swami regarding Datta Swami applies to all the human incarnations in the world in toto. Don’t think that the above analysis is limited only to the case of Datta Swami. It is in general about the human incarnation.

 

However, the devotee should serve the human body of the Lord with a faith that the human body itself is the Lord. Otherwise the concept of two separate items will not serve the purpose of the devotee. The devotee is assured of direct vision, direct conversation etc., with the Lord through the human body. Therefore, to such first angle devotees, the human body is the Lord, which is possible by His super power. The examples of sugar solution and current-wire cannot explain the concept of the Lord completely. There is no example in this creation, which can give (illustrate) the concept of the Lord completely.

 

The Lord and human body exist separately but close, for the people of second angle. The Lord and the human body exist separately and far from each other for the people of third angle. He exists according to the angle of the devotee. In fact dualism was shown by Krishna etc., from the point of a special concept. Whenever, a devotee or servant aspires to become human incarnation, the Lord fulfils it. Parasurama, a devotee, aspired for this and the Lord entered into his body, but when the Lord left, Parasurama continued to feel that he was the Lord. The Lord had to preach to him in the form of His next incarnation, Rama. Similarly, Balarama (Adisesha) also became a human incarnation. Adisesha is the L:ord’s closest servant. The power of the Lord entered into the servant and he was placed in the list of ten incarnations of the Lord. But Balarama misused that power by killing Bhurisravasa, a pot maker, who was presiding over a sacrifice.

 

Thus when a devotee or servant (Jeeva) becomes a human incarnation, there is a danger of posterior egoistic effect or misuse of granted powers. To warn His devotee or servant from such dangers, the Lord maintained dualism in His original incarnations like Krishna etc.,

You may ask a question “Why is the Lord so rigid in not transforming the individual soul (Jeeva) into the Lord Himself?” Jeeva (Y) is a part of the creation and the Lord is the Creator (X). Y can never be transformed into X. If Y is transformed into X, then the original X plus the new X obtained by transformation becomes larger. This would mean that the Lord grows whenever a soul is transformed. But the Lord never grows nor decreases.

 

Therefore, the only way left is to destroy the soul and make it nothing. If that is done, it is the greatest loss to the soul. Moreover when the soul does not exist, how can it recognize that it has become the Lord? If the soul remains to grasp this result, the soul is not transformed into the Lord. Therefore, you should understand the logical implication and you should not be rigid to become the Lord. Radha never wanted to become the Lord. She wanted to remain separately and enjoy in the Lord. That soul is given higher position (Goloka) and was kept on the head of the Lord. When you are attain a higher position, why should you insist on an equal position?

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