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The Huffington Post is reporting that Andrea Saul, a spokesman for the Romney campaign, that under a Romney presidency, there would be no federal prohibition barring health insurers from discriminating against pre-existing conditions.

 

Fixing our health care system means making sure that every American, regardless of their health care needs, can find quality, affordable coverage. That is why Governor Romney supports reforms to protect those with pre-existing conditions from being denied access to a health plan while they have continuous coverage. And for those purchasing insurance for the first time, he supports reforms that empower states to make high risk pools more accessible by using cost reducing methods like risk adjustment and reinsurance. Beginning on his first day in office, Governor Romney is committed to working with Congress to enact polices like these that protect Americans’ access to the care they need.

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Guest Fedup

More like money

 

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/politics/jan-june12/mccain_06-14.html

 

JUDY WOODRUFF: This question of campaign money highlighted today by this -- the announcement that there's a huge amount of money coming in from one donor in the state of Nevada.

 

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: Mr. Adelson, who gave large amounts of money to the Gingrich campaign. And much of Mr. Adelson's casino profits that go to him come from this casino in Macau.

 

JUDY WOODRUFF: Which says what?

 

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: Which says that, obviously, maybe in a roundabout way, foreign money is coming into an American campaign -- political campaigns.

 

JUDY WOODRUFF: Because of the profits at the casinos in Macau?

 

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN: Yes. That is a great deal of money. And, again, we need a level playing field and we need to go back to the realization that Teddy Roosevelt had that we have to have a limit on the flow of money, and that corporations are not people.

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Guest August

If you support outsourcing vote Mitt Romney

If you support jobs in America vote Barack Obama

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I think that is not a completely accurate statement.

 

Both candidates as elected leaders allowed the government to outsource goods and services.

 

Mitt Romney allowed call centers to be outsourced.

 

Barack Obama allowed bridges (San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge, Alexander Hamilton Bridge, Tanana River Bridge Crossing) to be outsourced.

 

Mitt Romney also a business leader advocated outsourcing jobs overseas.

 

Both Mitt Romney and President Obama have not pushed the Speaker to put the Chinese Currency Manipulation to the floor.

 

Neither President Obama or Mitt Romney did not give General Motors flack for making Cadillac XTS, CTS and ATX and its other fleet vehicles in China.

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Romney vision of outsourcing America's Jobs.

 

 

Right now, the U.S. tax code gives multinational corporations tax breaks for moving jobs overseas. President Obama not only wants to eliminate those tax breaks, but plans to create a new tax credit for companies that bring jobs back home.

 

In contrast, Mitt Romney’s tax plan would not only protect those existing tax breaks, but would create larger incentives for companies to ship U.S. jobs overseas. In fact, according to a new economic analysis, Romney’s economic plan could actually create 800,000 jobs in foreign countries.

Here’s how:

  1. Romney would eliminate all taxes on the foreign profits of U.S. companies. Currently, U.S. corporations don’t have to pay U.S. taxes on profits earned overseas until those profits are brought back into the United States. If elected, Romney would completely eliminate all U.S. taxes on these profits. Therefore, for the first time in modern history, an American company could move a factory overseas and never pay a single dollar in U.S. taxes on the profits generated by that factory.
  2. Eliminating taxes on foreign profits could create 800,000 jobs overseas. No longer required to pay taxes on foreign profits, companies would now have new incentives to move their operations out of the United States. Economist Kim Clausing, an expert in international taxation, estimated that Romney’s plan to eliminate these taxes could lead to the creation of 800,000 jobs overseas. These jobs, created in China and other countries, could replace American jobs, drive down the wages of American middle-class workers, and undermine our economic recovery.
  3. Romney’s plan would also undercut the U.S. tax base. Free to avoid paying taxes back home on profits earned abroad, multinational corporations could exploit accounting rules to make it appear that a large share of their profits are earned overseas. This gimmick would further undermine the U.S. tax base, which could increase the deficit and force small businesses and middle-class families to bear a higher share of the tax burden.

 

President Obama’s plan reduces the incentive to move operations overseas, and instead, creates a new 20 percent income tax credit that helps companies cover their moving expenses and bring their operations back to the United States. And to create a more level playing field for American businesses, the President has proposed a minimum tax on foreign earnings, which will reduce incentives for moving profits offshore.

 

The choice between President Obama and Mitt Romney is the choice between two fundamentally different economic visions: President Obama would reward companies for creating jobs in America, and Romney would reward companies for creating jobs in other countries. The choice is that stark and that clear.

 

Are you in? Help Barack stand up for working Americans. Join now.

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/BarackObamadotcom

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Guest Hunter

Fact: Mitt Romney = first and only US presidential candidate to have a Swiss bank account... EVER

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“I think that the President explained that himself yesterday. He doesn't believe that small businesses create jobs, he thinks government creates jobs. Listen, I was a small business guy. I worked hard, I took a hell of a lot of risk and I was successful. And it sure wasn't the government there to help my small business … I think the President's attack on the private sector in America is exactly what's wrong with this administration.” – Speaker John Boehner

 

Remarks

Washington, DC

July 18, 2012

 

Watch Speaker John Boehner Discuss President Obama’s Approach To The Economy

 

 

SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER: “The American people are still asking the question: where are the jobs? Now Democrats are threatening to tank our entire economy and harm our national security if they don’t get a massive tax increase on small business people. Yesterday, a non-partisan study from Ernst & Young showed that the President's proposed tax hike would cost our economy 700,000 jobs. Why are they pushing this tax [increase]? I think that the President explained that himself yesterday. He doesn't believe that small businesses create jobs, he thinks government creates jobs. Listen, I was a small business guy. I worked hard, I took a hell of a lot of risk and I was successful. And it sure wasn't the government there to help my small business. I am the one that had the sleepless nights. I am the one who went out on a limb to hire people and when I had to meet that payroll, it was my obligation, not only to take care of those people who worked for me, but to take care of those families of those people who worked for me. And I think the President's attack on the private sector in America is exactly what's wrong with this administration. He doesn't give a damn about middle-class Americans who are out there looking for work. What he's trying to do is distract the American people in order to win his own reelection.”

 

 

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Guest Make it in America

According to the Alliance for American Manufacturing poll 87% of Republicans and 91% of Democrats support strong buying preferences for public works.

 

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Let's not forget the Independent vote which 87% agree that all infrastructure projects should be made in USA. I think We the People are all coming to the same conclusion.

 

It is time to stop scaring Americans, rather it time to start uniting America.

 

We have many bright voters from both parties that need jobs and want to create jobs. Give serious breaks and amnesty to the financial sector that really wants to create a robust economy that will last for our children.

 

It sickens my heart that nothing gets done during election times. Instead of spending billions of campaign dollars promoting division. Take the high road and promote real bipartisan leadership that will make our Nation great again.

 

I challenge both former Governor Romney and President Obama to taskmaster their parties to come up with an "Invest in America" legislation before the election. And then come up with financial tax and entitlement package everyone can live with.

 

I am going to church to pray for this to happen.

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Guest American4Progress

Republicans Will Raise Taxes — Just Not on the Wealthy

 

Republicans are holding middle class tax cuts hostage in order to give the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans yet another extra tax cut. If that wasn’t bad enough, the Republicans are now affirmatively proposing to raise taxes on tens of millions of poor and middle class Americans — even as they slash them on the wealthy.

 

Here’s the rundown.

 

If you want to know how Republicans really feel about the middle class, you need look no further than a doozy of a floor speech that Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ) — a member of the Senate Republican leadership — gave yesterday. Kyl attacked President Obama for “incessantly” talking about the middle class.

 

And it’s not just their rhetoric that shows disdain for the middle class, it’s their actual proposals.

 

TAX CUTS REPUBLICANS ARE HOLDING HOSTAGE:

  • Tax cuts for 98 percent of Americans. (The wealthiest two percent would also still get a tax cut on their first $250,000 of income.)

TAX CUTS REPUBLICANS ARE INSISTING ON:

  • An extra tax cut for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans, including millionaires and billionaires.

TAX INCREASES REPUBLICANS WANT:

  • Limiting eligibility for the child tax credit, which constitutes a tax increase on 12 MILLION families. This works out to an average tax increase of $800 per family. In the case of a family made up of one person earning minimum wage and two children, the tax increase would be much larger according to one estimate: $1545.

  • Curtailing tax credits for higher education expenses from $2500 a year to $1800 and reducing the years of eligibility from four years to two. This translates into an average tax increase of $1100 for 11 MILLION families.

  • Cutting back on the earned income tax credit for families with three or more children and worsening the so-called “marriage penalty” on working poor couples, which translates into an average tax increase of $500 for 6 MILLION families.

All told, these Republican tax increases would hit more than 25 million poor, working, and middle class families.

 

Worse yet, Republicans aren’t even being honest about their plans to raise taxes on millions of Americans. Here’s what Sen. Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) claimed earlier today:

 

“Republicans will head into tomorrow’s vote guided by a simple principle: do no harm. In our view, the best approach to taxes right now is to let every American and every American business know they won’t have a higher income tax bill at the end of the year. We think everybody in America should have that certainty.”

 

Unfortunately, the only people Republicans are really interested in letting know that they won’t see a tax increase are the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. Republicans claim to care about the middle class, but they are holding middle class tax cuts hostage. And even as they promise more tax giveaways to the wealthy, Republicans want to raise taxes on 25 MILLION families — including some of the poorest Americans.

 

Tomorrow, Senate Democrats will try and move forward with their plan to preserve middle class tax cuts while asking the wealthiest Americans to give up the extra tax cuts that they simply do not need and that we cannot afford.

 

IN ONE SENTENCE: Just like Mitt Romney, Republicans in Congress want to raise taxes on the middle class in order to give the wealthiest Americans yet another handout that they don’t need.

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Guest Archer G0Hare

I do not know who I want and am pretty much done with voting.

 

We have a president who believes in Jesus as the only Son of God, yet he supports killing life and same sex marriage.

 

We have the other candidate that believes Jesus and Lucifer were both sons of God, yet he supports life and hetro marriage.

 

Totally confused.

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Guest Nathaniel

This is directly from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

 

Chapter 7: The Plan of Salvation

 

Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Brigham Young, (1997), 48–53

 

We are free to choose good over evil, exaltation over misery.

[The Father asked,] “Who will redeem the earth, who will go forth and make the sacrifice for the earth and all things it contains?” The Eldest Son said: “Here am I”; and then he added, “Send me.” But the second one, which was “Lucifer, Son of the Morning,” said, “Lord, here am I, send me, I will redeem every son and daughter of Adam and Eve that lives on the earth, or that ever goes on the earth.” “But,” says the Father, “that will not answer at all. I give each and every individual his agency; all must use that in order to gain exaltation in my kingdom; inasmuch as they have the power of choice they must exercise that power. They are my children; the attributes which you see in me are in my children and they must use their agency. If you undertake to save all, you must save them in unrighteousness and corruption” [see Abraham 3:23–28; Moses 4:1–4] (DBY, 53–54).

 

https://www.lds.org/...pter-7?lang=eng

 

Book of Moses

 

Chapter 4

 

How Satan became the devil—He tempts Eve—Adam and Eve fall, and death enters the world.

 

1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely eI will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.

 

2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

 

3 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;

 

4 And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.

 

5 And now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which I, the Lord God, had made.

 

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses/4.1-4?lang=eng#0

 

The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 29

 

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, in the presence of six elders, at Fayette, New York, September 1830.

 

36 And it came to pass that Adam, being tempted of the devil—for, behold, the devil was before Adam, for he rebelled against me, saying, Give me thine honor, which is my power; and also a third part of the ghosts of heaven turned he away from me because of their agency;

 

37 And they were thrust down, and thus came the devil and his angels;

 

38 And, behold, there is a place prepared for them from the beginning, which place is hell.

 

39 And it must needs be that the devil should tempt the children of men, or they could not be agents unto themselves; for if they never should have bitter they could not know the sweet.

 

https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-brigham-young/chapter-7?lang=eng

 

Doctrine and Covenants

 

Section 76

 

A vision given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, 16 February 1832 (see History of the Church, 1:245–52). Prefacing his record of this vision, the Prophet wrote: “Upon my return from Amherst conference, I resumed the translation of the Scriptures. From sundry revelations which had been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled. It appeared self-evident from what truths were left, that if God rewarded every one according to the deeds done in the body the term ‘Heaven,’ as intended for the Saints’ eternal home, must include more kingdoms than one. Accordingly, … while translating St. John’s Gospel, myself and Elder Rigdon saw the following vision” (History of the Church, 1:245). It was after the Prophet had translated John 5:29 that this vision was given.

 

19 And while we meditated upon these things, the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened, and the glory of the Lord shone round about.

 

20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the bright hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;

 

21 And saw the holy aangels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.

 

22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

 

23 For we saw him, even on the bright hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—

 

24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.

 

25 And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,

 

26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning.

 

27 And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning!

 

28 And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ—

 

29 Wherefore, he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasseth them round about.

 

30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:

 

31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—

 

32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;

 

33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;

 

34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—

 

35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.

 

36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—

 

37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;

 

38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.

 

39 For all the rest shall be brought forth by the resurrection of the dead, through the triumph and the glory of the Lamb, who was slain, who was in the bosom of the Father before the worlds were made.

 

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/76.32.32-48?lang=eng#31

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Saint Augustine in his book City of God refers to the "sons of God" as being descendants of Seth (or Sethites), the pure line of Adam.

 

Rabbinic sources, most notably the Targum, state that the "sons of God" who married the daughters of men were merely human beings of exalted social station.

 

Jewish commentator Isaac Abrabanel considered the aggadot on Genesis 6 to have referred to some secret doctrine and was not to be taken literally. Abrabanel later joined Nahmanides, and Levi ben Gerson in promoting the concept that the "sons of God" were the older generations who were closer to physical perfection, as Adam and Eve were perfect.

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The Book of John

 

1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

2 He was in the beginning with God.

 

3 All things came into being through him, and without him came into being not one thing that is in being.

 

4 In him is life, and the life was the light of men.

 

5 And the light shines in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not.

 

6 There came a man, sent from God; his name was John:

 

7 this man came for a testimony, that he might testify of the light, that all through him might believe.

 

8 He was not the light, but came that he might testify of the light.

 

9 That was the true light, which, coming into the world, gives light to every man.

 

10 He was in the world, and the world came into being through him, and the world knew him not.

 

11 He came to his own country, and his own people received him not.

 

12 But as many as received him, to them gave he the right to become children of God, to those that believe on his name,

 

13 who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God.

 

14 And the Word became flesh, and tabernacled among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

 

15 John testified of him and cried, saying: This was he of whom I said: He that comes after me has been advanced before me, because he was before me.

 

16 For of his fullness have we all received, and grace for grace;

 

17 for the law was given through Moses, the grace and the truth came through Jesus Christ.

 

18 No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.

 

19 And the testimony of John is this, when the Jews of Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him: Who art thou?

 

20 And he confessed and denied not, and confessed: I am not the Christ.

 

21 And they asked him: What then? Art thou Elijah? He said: I am not. Art thou the prophet? and he answered: No.

 

22 They then said to him: Who art thou? that we may give an answer to those that sent us: what sayest thou of thyself?

 

23 He replied: I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness: Make straight the way of the Lord, as said Isaiah the prophet.

 

24 And some had been sent from the Pharisees,

 

25 and they asked him, and said to him: Why then dost thou baptize, if thou art not the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the prophet?

 

26 John answered them, saying: I baptize in water: in the midst of you there stands whom you know not,

 

27 he that comes after me, the latchet of whose sandal I am not worthy to loose.

 

28 These things were done in Bethany beyond the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

 

29 On the next day he sees Jesus coming to him, and says: Behold, the Lamb of God, that takes away the sin of the world.

 

30 This is he of whom I said: After me comes a man who has been advanced before me, because he was before me.

 

31 And I knew him not, but that he might be manifested to Israel, therefore have I come baptizing in water.

 

32 And John testified, saying: I saw the Spirit descending, like a dove, from heaven, and it abode upon him.

 

33 And I knew him not, but he that sent me to baptize in water, he said to me: On whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending and abiding on him, this is he that baptizeth in the Holy Spirit.

 

34 And I have seen, and I have testified that this is the Son of God.

 

35 On the next day again John stood, and two of his disciples,

 

36 and looking upon Jesus as he was walking, he says: Behold, the Lamb of God!

 

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Doctrine and Covenants

Section 76

 

A vision given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, 16 February 1832 (see History of the Church, 1:245–52). Prefacing his record of this vision, the Prophet wrote: “Upon my return from Amherst conference, I resumed the translation of the Scriptures. From sundry revelations which had been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled. It appeared self-evident from what truths were left, that if God rewarded every one according to the deeds done in the body the term ‘Heaven,’ as intended for the Saints’ eternal home, must include more kingdoms than one. Accordingly, … while translating St. John’s Gospel, myself and Elder Rigdon saw the following vision” (History of the Church, 1:245). It was after the Prophet had translated John 5:29 that this vision was given.

 

 

11 We, Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, being in the Spirit on the sixteenth day of February, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and thirty-two—

 

12 By the power of the Spirit our eyes were opened and our understandings were enlightened, so as to see and understand the things of God—

 

13 Even those things which were from the beginning before the world was, which were ordained of the Father, through his Only Begotten Son, who was in the bosom of the Father, even from the beginning;

 

14 Of whom we bear record; and the record which we bear is the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ, who is the Son, whom we saw and with whom we conversed in the heavenly vision.

 

15 For while we were doing the work of translation, which the Lord had appointed unto us, we came to the twenty-ninth verse of the fifth chapter of John, which was given unto us as follows—

 

16 Speaking of the resurrection of the dead, concerning those who shall hear the voice of the Son of Man:

 

17 And shall come forth; they who have done good, in the resurrection of the just; and they who have done evil, in the resurrection of the unjust.

 

18 Now this caused us to marvel, for it was given unto us of the Spirit.

 

19 And while we meditated upon these things, the Lord touched the eyes of our understandings and they were opened, and the glory of the Lord shone round about.

 

20 And we beheld the glory of the Son, on the bright hand of the Father, and received of his fulness;

21 And saw the holy angels, and them who are sanctified before his throne, worshiping God, and the Lamb, who worship him forever and ever.

 

22 And now, after the many testimonies which have been given of him, this is the testimony, last of all, which we give of him: That he lives!

 

23 For we saw him, even on the bright hand of God; and we heard the voice bearing record that he is the Only Begotten of the Father—

 

24 That by him, and through him, and of him, the worlds are and were created, and the inhabitants thereof are begotten sons and daughters unto God.

 

25 And this we saw also, and bear record, that an angel of God who was in authority in the presence of God, who rebelled against the Only Begotten Son whom the Father loved and who was in the bosom of the Father, was thrust down from the presence of God and the Son,

 

26 And was called Perdition, for the heavens wept over him—he was Lucifer, a son of the morning.

 

27 And we beheld, and lo, he is fallen! is fallen, even a son of the morning!

 

28 And while we were yet in the Spirit, the Lord commanded us that we should write the vision; for we beheld Satan, that old serpent, even the devil, who rebelled against God, and sought to take the kingdom of our God and his Christ—

 

29 Wherefore, he maketh war with the saints of God, and encompasseth them round about.

 

https://www.lds.org/....13?lang=eng#12

 

Chapter 4

(June–October 1830)

 

How Satan became the devil—He tempts Eve—Adam and Eve fall, and death enters the world.

 

1 And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely eI will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.

 

2 But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

 

3 Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;

 

4 And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.

 

http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses/4?lang=eng

 

Chapter 5

(June–October 1830)

 

Adam and Eve bring forth children—Adam offers sacrifice and serves God—Cain and Abel are born—Cain rebels, loves Satan more than God, and becomes Perdition—Murder and wickedness spread—The gospel is preached from the beginning.

 

16 And Adam and Eve, his wife, ceased not to call upon God. And Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bare Cain, and said: I have gotten a man from the Lord; wherefore he may not reject his words. But behold, Cain hearkened not, saying: Who is the Lord that I should know him?

 

17 And she again conceived and bare his brother Abel. And Abel hearkened unto the voice of the Lord. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.

 

18 And Cain loved Satan more than God. And Satan commanded him, saying: Make an offering unto the Lord.

 

19 And in process of time it came to pass that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.

 

20 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock, and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel, and to his offering;

 

21 But unto Cain, and to his offering, he had not respect. Now Satan knew this, and it pleased him. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.

 

22 And the Lord said unto Cain: Why art thou wroth? Why is thy countenance fallen?

 

23 If thou doest well, thou shalt be accepted. And if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door, and Satan desireth to have thee; and except thou shalt hearken unto my commandments, I will deliver thee up, and it shall be unto thee according to his desire. And thou shalt rule over him;

 

24 For from this time forth thou shalt be the father of his lies; thou shalt be called Perdition; for thou wast also before the world.

 

25 And it shall be said in time to come—That these abominations were had from Cain; for he rejected the greater counsel which was had from God; and this is a cursing which I will put upon thee, except thou repent.

 

26 And Cain was wroth, and listened not any more to the voice of the Lord, neither to Abel, his brother, who walked in holiness before the Lord.

 

27 And Adam and his wife mourned before the Lord, because of Cain and his brethren.

 

28 And it came to pass that Cain took one of his brothers’ daughters to wife, and they loved Satan more than God.

 

29 And Satan said unto Cain: Swear unto me by thy throat, and if thou tell it thou shalt die; and swear thy brethren by their heads, and by the living God, that they tell it not; for if they tell it, they shall surely die; and this that thy father may not know it; and this day I will deliver thy brother Abel into thine hands.

 

30 And Satan sware unto Cain that he would do according to his commands. And all these things were done in secret.

 

31 And Cain said: Truly I am Mahan, the master of this great secret, that I may murder and get gain. Wherefore Cain was called Master Mahan, and he gloried in his wickedness.

 

32 And Cain went into the field, and Cain talked with Abel, his brother. And it came to pass that while they were in the field, Cain rose up against Abel, his brother, and slew him.

 

33 And Cain gloried in that which he had done, saying: I am free; surely the flocks of my brother falleth into my hands.

 

34 And the Lord said unto Cain: Where is Abel, thy brother? And he said: I know not. Am I my brother’s keeper?

 

35 And the Lord said: What hast thou done? The voice of thy brother’s blood cries unto me from the ground.

 

36 And now thou shalt be cursed from the earth which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand.

 

37 When thou tillest the ground it shall not henceforth yield unto thee her strength. A fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth.

 

38 And Cain said unto the Lord: Satan tempted me because of my brother’s flocks. And I was wroth also; for his offering thou didst accept and not mine; my punishment is greater than I can bear.

 

39 Behold thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the Lord, and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that he that findeth me will slay me, because of mine iniquities, for these things are not hid from the Lord.

 

40 And I the Lord said unto him: Whosoever slayeth thee, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And I the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

 

41 And Cain was shut out from the presence of the Lord, and with his wife and many of his brethren dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

 

42 And Cain knew his wife, and she conceived and bare Enoch, and he also begat many sons and daughters. And he builded a city, and he called the name of the city after the name of his son, Enoch.

 

https://www.lds.org/....24?lang=eng#23

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The Book of John

 

6:24 When, therefore, the multitude saw that Jesus was not there, nor his disciples, they entered the little ships and came to Capernaum, seeking Jesus.

 

25 And having found him on the other side of the sea, they said to him: Rabbi, when earnest thou hither?

 

26 Jesus answered them and said: Verily, verily, I say to you, you seek me not because you saw the signs, but because you ate of the loaves and were filled.

 

27 Labor not for the food that perishes, but for the food that abides to life eternal, which the Son of man gives you; for him has God the Father attested.

 

28 They said therefore to him: What must we do that we may work the works of God?

 

29 Jesus answered and said to them: This is the work of God, that you believe on him whom he has sent.

 

30 They said then to him: What doest thou then as a sign, that we may see and believe thee; what workest thou?

 

31 Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, as it is written: Bread from heaven gave he them to eat.

 

32 Then said Jesus to them: Verily, verily, I say to you, Moses has not given you the bread from heaven; but my Father gives you the bread from heaven, the true.

 

33 For the bread which is God's is he that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.

 

34 They said therefore to him: Lord, always give us this bread.

 

35 Jesus then said to them: I am the bread of life: he that comes to me shall not hunger, and he that believes on me shall never thirst.

 

36 But I said to you that you have seen and do not believe.

 

37 All that the Father gives me shall come to me, and him that comes to me I will not cast out;

 

38 for I have come down from heaven, not that I might do my will, but the will of him that sent me.

 

39 And this is the will of him that sent me, that I shall lose nothing of all that he has given me, but shall raise it up in the last day.

 

40 For this is the will of my Father, that whoever sees the Son and believes on him may have life eternal, and I shall raise him up in the last day.

 

41 The Jews therefore murmured concerning him, because he said: I am the bread that came down from heaven;

 

42 and they said: Is not this Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How now says this man: I have come down from heaven?

 

43 Jesus answered and said to them: Murmur not among yourselves.

 

44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draw him, and I will raise him up in the last day.

 

45 It is written in the prophets: And they shall all be taught of God: every one that has heard from the Father and has learned, comes to me.

 

46 Not that any one has seen the Father, but he that is from God, he has seen the Father.

 

47 Verily, verily, I say to you, he that believes has life eternal.

 

48 I am the bread of life.

 

49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness and died:

 

50 this is the bread that comes down from heaven, that any one may eat of it and not die.

 

51 I am the living bread, that came down from heaven: if any one eat of my bread, he shall live forever; and the bread also that I will give for the life of the world, is my flesh.

 

52 The Jews then contended one with another, saying: How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

 

53 Jesus therefore said to them: Verily, verily, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

 

54 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood has life eternal, and I will raise him up in the, last day.

 

55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.

 

56 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me and I in him.

 

57 As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, he also that eats me even he shall live because of me.

 

58 This is the bread that came down from heaven, not as the fathers ate and died: he that eats this bread shall live forever.

 

59 These things spoke he in the synagogue as he taught in Capernaum.

 

60 Therefore many of his disciples on hearing it said: A hard saying is this: who can hear it?

 

61 But Jesus, knowing in himself that his disciples murmured concerning this, said to them: Does this offend you?

 

62 If then you should see the Son of man ascending where he was before?

 

63 The spirit is that which makes alive; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I have spoken to you are spirit, and are life.

 

64 But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who it was that would deliver him up.

 

65 And he said: For this reason have I said to you that no one can come to me unless it be given him of the Father.

 

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Guest Rich H

People are going to have different religions, churches, beliefs, faiths. Think of how many of your friends are of different faiths. We're they good people? Isn't that all that matters? In high school i had Christian friends, Non-Religions friends, Mormon friends, heck.. even had a friend that was Wickan i think? I was friends with them because of their character. They were good people. That's all that mattered.

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Guest Casey Cornett

I'm actually curious to see how the "Bible Belt" votes in November when faced to choose between a Mormon Republican and a Christian Democrat.

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Guest Widow's Son

"Look, I'm Mormon, and most Christians don't recognize me as a Christian." – Glenn Beck, on August 29, 2010, in an interview with Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday.

 

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Guest John H. Rodgers Jr.

The orthodox Christian view is that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, fully God and fully man, one Person in two natures. Jesus, Israel's promised Messiah, was conceived through the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived a sinless life, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father as our High Priest and Advocate.

 

The Mormon view is that Jesus is not eternally self existent, but that he is the first of the children of the Mormon god. They also believe that Satan was the second of this god's children, making Jesus and Lucifer spirit brothers. In Mormon theology, Jesus was created, and is not in fact, divine.

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The world is so polarized. This video the urgent need to put aside our differences and work together for the benefit of all mankind.

 

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Guest Nathaniel

The orthodox Christian view is that Jesus Christ is God incarnate, fully God and fully man, one Person in two natures. Jesus, Israel's promised Messiah, was conceived through the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived a sinless life, was crucified under Pontius Pilate, arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God the Father as our High Priest and Advocate.

 

The Mormon view is that Jesus is not eternally self existent, but that he is the first of the children of the Mormon god. They also believe that Satan was the second of this god's children, making Jesus and Lucifer spirit brothers. In Mormon theology, Jesus was created, and is not in fact, divine.

 

In 1909 the First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints issued the following statement:

 

Jesus, however, is the firstborn among all the sons of God—the first begotten in the spirit, and the only begotten in the flesh. He is our elder brother, and we, like Him, are in the image of God. All men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of Deity.

 

http://ia600706.us.archive.org/3/items/improvementera1301unse/improvementera1301unse.pdf#page=75

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Guest Friend of Bill Bolling

On the first day of the Democratic National Convention, our nation’s debt hit $16 trillion. And we received another round of dismal jobs numbers with unemployment once again over 8%. On his way down to Charlotte this week, President Obama stopped in Norfolk. What we didn’t hear in his speech at Norfolk State University was what he was going to do about the looming defense cuts that threaten to harm our national security and our economy. President Obama is using these cuts in a "high stakes game of poker to blackmail Republicans" who control the House into voting for higher taxes.

 

President Obama has no plan to rein in spending, get our deficit and debt under control and get Americans back to work.

 

America’s Comeback Team of Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan has a plan to create more jobs for the middle class, which will get 12 million Americans back to work. They will do this by making America energy independent by 2020, giving people the skills they need for the jobs of today, cutting the deficit and balancing the budget so our children are not left with a fiscal disaster in Washington, and championing small businesses.

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Israel Science and Technology, the national database and directory of science and technology-related websites in Israel, has published an article asserting the long-form birth certificate released by the White House is a forged document.

 

http://www.science.c...Certificate.htm

 

Since this is a site of Science and technology, there is a need to explain why this site dedicates a page to expose forgery about a document related to Mr. Barack Hussein Obama. Mr. Obama is the President of the USA that is currently the leader of the Free World, and the most powerful country in the Western hemisphere. In his position as the President, the policies pursued by Mr. Obama affects the whole world and not just the USA.

 

Because of the persisting controversy about his eligibility, On April 27, 2011 the Office of the President at the White House released a document that is called "Long-Form Birth Certificate". The release of this simple document, after two years of controversy, raised in our minds the possibility that there could be something suspicious about the information available on this document. To check this, we downloaded the document that was posted at the White House site at

 

http://www.whitehous...-long-form.pdf.

 

The analyses presented below reveal without a doubt that the Long-Form Birth Certificate of Mr. Obama is a fabricated, fake and forged document.

 

The publication of such a blatantly fake document about something so basic as the birthplace of Mr. Obama, should raise great concern about the suitability of the person who is holding the reigns on the most powerful country of the World.

 

Moreover, the lack of action on the part of the members of the United States House of Representatives and Senate, as well as the courts of the United States, despite many previous appeals to these three branches of American government, also raise a concern about how the governmental institutions of the reputedly best, and certainly the most important democracy in the Free World have avoided this issue.

 

Analysis of the document using Inkscape, a vector graphics software.

 

Reservations could be raised about the results of imaging by Foxit Reader noted above. As an independent test of the composition of the "Long-Form Birth Certificate" of Obama, the PDF file was also examined by an open source freely available Inkscape (version 0.48.1) graphics software.

Instructions to check the document:

  1. Download the document from http://www.whitehous...e-long-form.pdf
  2. Import the PDF document using Inkscape. Unmark the two options in order not to modify the document.
  3. In vector graphics software, an image is composed of elements. If the "Long-Form Birth Certificate" of Obama was a photocopied document then it should not be composed of separate parts. To reveal if the document has parts, click on the image opened. The status line at the bottom of the software reports that the image is composed of "2 objects" that have been grouped.
  4. To "ungroup" image components click Ctrl-Shift-G or select Object>Ungroup.
  5. For a second time, again click on the image and to "ungroup" image components click Ctrl-Shift-G or select Object>Ungroup. The status line at the bottom of the program reports that the image includes 9 objects.
  6. Again click on the image and for a third time to "ungroup" image components click Ctrl-Shift-G or select Object>Ungroup. This time you see the outlines of nine rectangles marking the boundaries of the 9 objects.
  7. The most important object among the 9 objects that are revealed is shown below.

 

Comparing the object above with the original document, it is seen that in the top right-hand corner of the document the last digit "1", of the serial number of the form "61 10641" is missing. This repeats the same observation as seen in the simple magnified view of the document in the PDF Foxit Reader (see above).

These are just a few of the problems with this document. There are many other problems with this document that you can read about in various documents and web sites such as:

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