You're right Law. Any ideas on how to do that? I think popularly the GP would get votes if it didn't look like votes for Republicans. From my experience in California, there is elitist control of the GP now, which wouldn't be if it became popular, because then it would be forced to respond to real politick needs. Now the elites are about idealism and how something could be perfect. We need to just end war corruption and ecological destruction. Though those are huge, they're not perfect or utopian, and US americans would vote for that. Instead we have Republicans and a lot of Democrats insisting that if we change course, we'll sink to communism or anarchism, both of which notions it seems to me are patently false. US Americans are reasonable and wold follow a credible GP lead. Any ideas? Seabob, San Bernardino CA