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#1 RT
Posted 07 February 2010 - 12:38 PM
Google's alliance with the NSA -- the intelligence agency is the world's most powerful electronic surveillance organization -- would be aimed at letting them share critical information without violating Google's policies or laws that protect the privacy of online communications.
"NSA is not able to comment on specific relationships we may or may not have with U.S. companies," the agency said in a statement.
The Electronic Privacy Information Center filed a Freedom of Information Act request on Thursday, shortly after the agreement was made public, seeking more information about the arrangement (.pdf).
Executive Director Marc Rotenberg believes the agreement covers much more than the Google hack and that the search giant and intelligence agency were in talks prior to Google discovering that it had been hacked.
Google declined to comment.
MultiQuote#2 Human
Posted 07 February 2010 - 09:13 PM
Yeap! I read that article. It's very interesting stuff out there. That's why I use the screen name "Human", as well as others. It's a universal name for someone looking in a search engine.
Google is word specific. I know what the strengths and weaknesses of the search engines, but I won’t get into that.
Google is word specific. I know what the strengths and weaknesses of the search engines, but I won’t get into that.
#4 Human
Posted 08 February 2010 - 04:14 PM
Mostly for business, they can target ads to your specific searches. Don't worry, it's nothing. Anyways there is over 500 major search engines out there for the united states alone.
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Teri, on 08 February 2010 - 11:06 AM, said:
Why does Google want to track me?
#5 Saint Aubin
Posted 08 February 2010 - 05:12 PM
Human, on 08 February 2010 - 04:14 PM, said:
Mostly for business, they can target ads to your specific searches. Don't worry, it's nothing. Anyways there is over 500 major search engines out there for the united states alone.
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I know I am being shortsighted by even uttering this (but maybe not) but I could not give a flying rat's behind if Google tracks me for business purposes: in fact, I'd prefer it.
Where can I get good weed?
Where can I find a doctor who will write me an Rx?
Where is a good place to get a mortgage?
Where can I find a good dentist who won't hurt me when s/he drills?
I want answers Google!!!
#6 Human
Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:22 AM
When I posted in another post that chinas golden fire wall was not limited to just china, but also here in the U.S., I was not kidding around.
It really does work both ways plus it also shows who is watching whom.
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It really does work both ways plus it also shows who is watching whom.
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Saint Aubin, on 08 February 2010 - 05:12 PM, said:
I know I am being shortsighted by even uttering this (but maybe not) but I could not give a flying rat's behind if Google tracks me for business purposes: in fact, I'd prefer it.
Where can I get good weed?
Where can I find a doctor who will write me an Rx?
Where is a good place to get a mortgage?
Where can I find a good dentist who won't hurt me when s/he drills?
I want answers Google!!!
Where can I get good weed?
Where can I find a doctor who will write me an Rx?
Where is a good place to get a mortgage?
Where can I find a good dentist who won't hurt me when s/he drills?
I want answers Google!!!
#8 EFF
Posted 09 February 2010 - 09:47 AM
All Google wants to do is track, track, track. Google's new Google Book Search Project has the ability to track reading habits at an unprecedented level of granularity. In particular, according to the proposed Google Books Privacy Policy, web servers will automatically "log" each book and page you searched for and read, how long you viewed it for, and what book or page you continued onto next:
In addition, because users must have a Google Account in order to purchase and view books, Google maintains a dossier, via its Web History service, of all books purchased unless the user gives up the right to view a book he or she already "bought."
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When you use Google Books, we receive log information similar to what we receive in Web Search. This includes: the query term or page request (which may include specific pages within a book you are browsing), Internet Protocol address, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your request and one or more cookies that may uniquely identify your browser.
In addition, because users must have a Google Account in order to purchase and view books, Google maintains a dossier, via its Web History service, of all books purchased unless the user gives up the right to view a book he or she already "bought."
#9 anothervoice
Posted 09 February 2010 - 10:45 AM
What scares me is Google CEO Eric Schmidt's response to concerns about search engine users' privacy. When asked during an interview for CNBC's recent "Inside the Mind of Google" special about whether users should be sharing information with Google as if it were a "trusted friend," Schmidt responded, "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place."
#10 PBS Watcher
Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:52 PM
Former AT&T technician Mark Klein and internet expert Brian Reid describe an NSA listening room that Klein discovered while working at the company's operations center. In "Spying on the Home Front" FRONTLINE talks to intelligence insiders and asks: Is the Bush administration's domestic war on terrorism jeopardizing our civil liberties? Coming May 15 to PBS and online at
http://www.pbs.org/frontline/homefront
In "Spying on the Home Front," coming May. 15, 2007 at 9pm (check local listings) Reporter Hedrick Smith presents new material on how the National Security Agency's domestic surveillance program works and examines clashing viewpoints on whether the President has violated the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and infringed on constitutional protections.
In another dramatic story, the program shows how the FBI vacuumed up records on 250,000 ordinary Americans who chose Las Vegas as the destination for their Christmas-New Year's holiday, and the subsequent revelation that the FBI has misused National Security Letters to gather information. Probing such projects as Total Information Awareness, and its little known successors, Smith discloses that even former government intelligence officials now worry that the combination of new security threats, advances in communications technologies, and radical interpretations of presidential authority may be threatening the privacy of Americans.
#11 EPIC
Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:14 PM
In January 2008, George W. Bush issued the Directive, but it was never released to the public.24 Under this secret Directive, the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI) was formed to "improve how the federal government protects sensitive information from hackers and nation states trying to break into agency networks." Since the Directive was issued, the NSA has pursued policies set out in the still-secret document. In fact, the Washington Post noted that the NSA, FBI and CIA, were charged with the responsibility of implementing the CNCI. The March 2009 resignation letter of the former head of the DHS National Cybersecurity Center, Rod Beckstrom, confirms that the NSA did in fact gain tremendous influence over DHS cybersecurity operations. In his letter, Mr. Beckstrom asserted that the “NSA effectively controls DHS cyber efforts through . . . technology insertions, and the proposed move of two organizations under DHS (the National Protection and Programs Directorate and the National Cybersecurity Center) to
a Fort Meade NSA facility.
President Obama’s recent focus on Transparency, Participation, and Collaboration between the public and executive agencies further justifies a renewed effort to disclose such information to the public. Despite the agency’s possession of the documents and the President’s openness initiative, NSA failed to make public the documents. Releasing the documents sought in the request would provide the opportunity for meaningful public participation in the development of new security measures that may have a significant impact on civil liberties, such as privacy. The Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs recognizes that cybersecurity initiatives must include actions to ". . . reassure [the public] that efforts to secure cyber networks will be appropriately balanced with respect for privacy and civil liberties."
As of 2009, Gmail had roughly 146 million monthly users. Despite the cybersecurity risk to the millions of Gmail users, Google did not enable complete encryption until after the hacker attack originating from China.
a Fort Meade NSA facility.
President Obama’s recent focus on Transparency, Participation, and Collaboration between the public and executive agencies further justifies a renewed effort to disclose such information to the public. Despite the agency’s possession of the documents and the President’s openness initiative, NSA failed to make public the documents. Releasing the documents sought in the request would provide the opportunity for meaningful public participation in the development of new security measures that may have a significant impact on civil liberties, such as privacy. The Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs recognizes that cybersecurity initiatives must include actions to ". . . reassure [the public] that efforts to secure cyber networks will be appropriately balanced with respect for privacy and civil liberties."
As of 2009, Gmail had roughly 146 million monthly users. Despite the cybersecurity risk to the millions of Gmail users, Google did not enable complete encryption until after the hacker attack originating from China.
#12 Luke
Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:26 PM
#14 ACLU
Posted 09 February 2010 - 01:40 PM
If companies like Google think they need the government’s help to secure their networks, then a civilian agency needs to step up to the task. Cybersecurity for the American people should not be handed over to a military spy agency, one that is insulated from public oversight and has a history of secretly exploiting vulnerabilities, rather than fixing them.
Concerned? You can take action today by sending a letter to Google, letting them know that you object to such a deal and value your privacy online.
Take action today by sending a letter to Google
Concerned? You can take action today by sending a letter to Google, letting them know that you object to such a deal and value your privacy online.
Take action today by sending a letter to Google
#17 Human
Posted 09 February 2010 - 05:55 PM
To answer your question, everything you do online is tracked in one form or another.
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Shane, on 09 February 2010 - 01:52 PM, said:
What about Google Buzz? Does that mean it will be tracking everything I do?
#18 Human
Posted 09 February 2010 - 06:29 PM
Ooops forgot to add this part, when you take your computer to get fixed; The techs can download your hard drive unto their hard drive. Nothing is scared.
My last hard drive to bite the bullet, I opened up the hard drive, took out the disks, and turned them into pure metallic dust. Then I took a blow tourch to it with other fine metals.
Now is that taking information security to an extreme? Yeap!! But I believe in privacy.
My last hard drive to bite the bullet, I opened up the hard drive, took out the disks, and turned them into pure metallic dust. Then I took a blow tourch to it with other fine metals.
Now is that taking information security to an extreme? Yeap!! But I believe in privacy.
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I honestly do not think people even care. There is very little chatter on the subject.
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